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November 11th, 2010
Bobcats shoot for winning season, McNeese shoots for title


Texas State wide receiver Darius Bolden runs after the catch earlier this season at Stephen F. Austin. Texas State sports information photo.


Conference championship implications are in play when the Texas State football team visits McNeese State Saturday (7 p.m.). But those implications do not involve the Bobcats.

The Bobcats ruined whatever chance they had left when they fell to a 42-3 halftime deficit last Saturday in a 49-17 loss to Central Arkansas. The loss dropped Texas State to 4-5 overall and 1-4 in the Southland Conference.

McNeese State is in a three-way tie at the top of the Southland Conference. The Cowboys, Stephen F. Austin (SFA) and Northwestern State all are 4-1 in the conference.

Of the three teams tied at the top, SFA is the only team that can win the conference title just by winning its last two games. The Lumberjacks play at home against Southeastern Louisiana Saturday, then play at home on Nov. 20 against Northwestern State in the league’s key remaining game this season.

Before going to SFA, Northwestern State will play at home Saturday against Nicholls State. Even if the Demons win both games, they still would need McNeese to lose at least once in order to take the championship. McNeese owns the tiebreaker against Northwestern by virtue of a 24-7 win in their meeting on Oct. 2.

McNeese would win the conference title if it wins both of its remaining games and SFA loses at least once in the next two weeks.

The Cowboys are only 5-4 overall, but it takes a good team to beat them. Two of their defeats came at the hands of Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) schools Missouri and Louisiana State. The Cowboys also have lost to California Polytechnic and SFA, which both were nationally ranked in the Football Championship Subdivision (FCS) at the time.

The Bobcats still have a chance for a winning season, but they will have to earn it with two wins on the road. After playing at McNeese State Saturday, the Bobcats will go to Sam Houston State on Nov. 20 to end their season.

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19 thoughts on “Bobcats shoot for winning season, McNeese shoots for title

  1. Bring on The Pirate to build a 1A program and fill the stadium. He’s gotta go somewhere and San Marcos is sooooo much nicer than Lubbock.

  2. Leach wouldn’t even think about TxSt. Nor could we (or should we) afford to pay him what he would want.

  3. Specific names aside, if we aren’t entertaining ideas of getting a successful 1A coach in here, then we aren’t very serious and UTSA is going to eat our lunch, to say nothing of the established programs we’ll face.

    Re: potentially coaching at 1-9 Minnesota, Leach said “I’m in a position to listen to anybody.”

    I say, let’s take him up on that and see if he wants to listen to us (and vice-versa).

  4. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. The announcement is coming this afternoon. The question is, what will we do to prepare for the 2012 season?

  5. Actually, short of burning the stadium, that’s about what they’ve been doing. I’ve seen lots of academic progress in 20 years. The football program seems relatively unchanged, other than the tailgating and the new name.

  6. @Ted

    I sit in buildings with failing air conditioning. I use laboratory glassware that is broken and improper. We can’t even provide the labs with the correct pH paper. We use styrofoam cups as “calorimeters.” The only nice labs are closed to the typical student, and are funded by grant money (not from the University), for use by the profs and their research teams.

    We might have made some progress, but at the expense of MORE progress, we’ve accelerated our Athletics Program.

    I’m not an athlete, but I see it’s place in our University, but not at the expense of academics. Maybe 5% of these athletes will pursue athletic careers, but 100% came here for an education. 100% of the other students came here for an education (not athletic entertainment). I’d like to compare the money we’ve spent on the new stadium to the budgets of the academic colleges. Who cares if football makes us money (that’s NOT what college is about)?

    The University has to find a way to turn a profit (which is a FLAWED position) and so to do this, they have to keep bringing in:

    a) more students (look how fast this school has grown; our tuition has grown at a faster rate than EVERY other public, state-funded university)

    b) more money (from athletics)

    Our focus is all wrong…

    … and that’s why I’m leaving this University, for one who doesn’t have a sports program.

  7. In all probability, unless the BCS changes, or we move to a conference with a guaranteed BCS bowl bid (the proceeds of which are split among all of the schools in the conference), this will likely be a money-losing proposition, so it is hard to find fault with your logic re: priorities. 20 years ago, we were a party school, where anyone could get in and the only reason the degree had any appreciable value, is because some employers had learned that SWT grads weren’t so entitled as UT grads.

    Since then, there has been significant progress, not just *some* progress. 20 years ago, there were four small dorms where the McCoy Business School sits and the Supple Building was the “New Science Building.” The McCoy building and the Mitte Buildings are *very* significant additions and indicative of the university’s ongoing commitment to education. I’m sorry that some of your supplies are old and your facilities have problems. That sounds like a product of a big, inefficient bureaucracy and potentially poorly run departments, than something caused by the athletic program. It is unlikely that the money donated for the stadium expansion would have been donated for beakers instead, if there were no football program.

  8. SWTSU may ahve had the reputation 20 years ago of being a “party school” but even then let me pick the course and the Prof. and if you partied, you’d flunk out in a semester.

    RIP Dan Farlow.

  9. I don’t know if you could flunk out in a semester, if you wanted. My recollection was that if your GPA dropped below a 2.0, you went on probation, whether it dropped to a 1.9, or a 0.17. The next semester, you just had to make progress (move from a 0.17 to a 0.25). If you did not make progress you were suspended. The third semester, you had to be above 2.0 again, or you were suspended.

    In fact, I believe that is still the policy.

    Regardless, it is impossible to say that the school has not made significant academic progress and difficult to say that the academic progress does not dwarf the athletic progress. IMHO, anyway.

  10. @ Ted

    I was going to school here when the dorms “under” McCoy still existed. I’m a nontraditional student who works 40 hrs. a week AND goes to school (and have been for too long)…

    I was here when Supple and Mitte were construction projects… but this doesn’t have as much to do with “academic progress” as it does business. Remember the Mitte complex was essentially donated by… the Mittes.

    Just because we have grown in size, doesn’t mean we’ve grown academically. It just shows that we’ve made enough money in the process to hold all these students. It has no indication of better academic quality as you suggest. 2 of the last 3 completed buildings were parking garages.

    If we were better academically, we’d be a research institution, which we are not. Texas A&M, UT (Austin, Arlington, San Anto, El Paso & Dallas, yes all of them), as well as Texas Tech, UNT and UTD are research universities. We have UTEP, Texas Tech and UTSA beat in enrollment, yet we still aren’t a research university. Something is wrong with that and we should be ashamed of it.

    As I said, I’m leaving next semester anyway, so why do I care so much.

  11. My thinking is that there are only three major research universities in Texas, University of Texas at Austin, Texas A&M at College Station, and Rice Uinversity, which is private. Now the Legislature passed a law in the last session toe elivate three more universities, including Texas Tech, to that status, but they are not there yet. As for leaving this university for oney without a sports program, I would like to know where that would be.

  12. Even tiny Beloit College has an athletics program. They all do, in one way or another.

    I’d say it’s vital to go to a research school if you’re involved in a science or engineering discipline that is likely to take you down that path. For business or liberal arts majors, I don’t see the big benefit. And many universities find themselves struggling to define their purpose…to teach, or to pursue research? The two are frequently at odds — for space, funding, and personnel.

    Most students who attend a four-year college don’t want to spend their lives in a lab, although I appreciate the efforts of those who do.

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