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November 2nd, 2010
Election 2010: ACC annexation results


Election results will be posted here as they become available from the Hays County Elections Office.

Austin Community College District annexation | Hays CISD

Yes No
6,879 (58.45%) 4,891 (41.55%)
Early voting and absentee voting | 0 of 36 precincts reporting

Austin Community College District annexation | San Marcos CISD

Yes No
4,570 (45.08%)
5,568 (54.92%)
Early voting and absentee voting | 0 of 36 precincts reporting
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14 thoughts on “Election 2010: ACC annexation results

  1. It looks like the districts closer to Austin passed (Hays, Elgin), while those some distance away failed (SM, McDade, Bastrop). Makes sense.

    ACC annexation will probably come, but it will have to happen in another 5-10 years or so as Austin grows.

    For the time being we get no community college. I hope all of you that voted no have an alternate proposal but I bet you don’t.

  2. I’m sorry it didn’t work out for you, but it’s clear this is not wanted by the community as a whole. One alternate proposal is the university on the hill…Texas State. The voters were a little smarter than the ACC proponents thought. I hope this is a message to ACC and anyone who tries to deliberately mislead the people under the guise of education.

    You are right that ACC will attempt annexation again in the future, but I think it will be sooner than 5 to 10 years. It’s a pyramid scheme that is unsustainable, and they need the tax dollars now. I predict ACC will need a bailout within 5 years or they will fail. You do understand this is not Austin, right? It’s not San Marcos or Hays Community College.

    I’m curious to see what ACC will do with the property they bought off of HWY 123.

  3. “One alternate proposal is the university on the hill…Texas State”

    Texas State has a very different mission than ACC. The goal of community colleges is to provide that bridge to students who otherwise can’t start out at places like Texas State. It does not and has never had the mission of a community college, at least not since it became a university 40 years ago. That would be like asking UTSA to do the same thing that Alamo Colleges do.

    I would welcome a Hays county or San Marcos community college rather than ACC, but we aren’t going to get that.

  4. Aaron,

    Why do you want to have ACC here in San Marcos? I’m just trying to figure it out. If the drive is a problem, ACC will only be about 15 miles away when they build the new campus around the Plum Creek Business district. ACC also provides classes here in San Marcos where our old High School vocational building was located. If money is a problem, Texas State has a Bobcat promise that provides people with free tuition if they make less than $25,000 per year.

    Only about 50 students from San Marcos CISD attend ACC every year. If we are annexed we would be sending approximately $3 million per year to ACC at the proposed tax rates. I think that’s a high price to pay for those 50 students. I understand that many Texas State students take classes at ACC also, but I don’t think we should have to subsidize those from other places like Houston, Dallas, etc. In my view, the ACC debate has brought to our attention the need for vocational and technical job training for students of our school district. Let’s focus on providing our school district with the necessary tools to provide this. This will allow us to have local control and hold elected officials accountable for the education of our students. I don’t think ACC is looking out for us the way we can locally.

  5. Justin,

    I think community colleges are good investments in general. It would have brought jobs and helped those SMCISD students who are not prepared for places like Texas State. It never bothered me that it was ACC. I never bought the “subsidize TxState students” argument because if those students ARE from Dallas, etc.. then they are out-of-district residents and will utilize their own community colleges.

    The rhetoric against ACC was against higher education in general. I researched ACC for weeks comparing it to other community college districts and I couldn’t find anything in particular that made it any worse than others in the state, although you could make a case it’s not much better than the others. Even rinky-dink towns like Clarendon or Uvalde have community colleges and their property taxes for them are higher than ACC’s are.

    I wish a “no” vote equaled a vote for our own community college or enhanced options for SMCISD or a Vocational Ed center. But it doesn’t. A no result means we get nothing. Nothing costs nothing. A campus costs money. I doubt any of the suggestions you have regarding vocational or technical schools will get off the ground because people could complain about the taxes on any initiative whatsoever.

    In general this is a vote against progress and rejection of investment in our community.

  6. Aaron- I would disagree that TSU would use their hometown ACC. They are taking classes at ACC while attending TSU, so it wouldn’t make since to commute around. Also the “residency” requirement is pretty lax. As a matter of fact, my (SM) son rented an Austin apt. AFTER paying out-of-district tuition, and he got tuition refunded after showing ACC his lease.

    I believe what make us different than Kyle, Buda, and other ‘rinky-dink’ towns that have community college is that SM residents are suffering from ‘college fatigue’. The University puts a monetary (and mental) strain on residents with heavy traffic, an abundance of minimum wage jobs, and low-quality housing (to name a few).

    I got the impression that the ‘No” vote was more of the residents saying that they’d rather their money to go towards improving residential neighborhoods and attracting more permanent businesses.

    I agree with more Vocational education opportunities at our high school. It was a sham (and shame) when Perez (I believe) eliminated them.

  7. “SM residents are suffering from ‘college fatigue’.”

    I moved here in 2001 to go college and so far have stayed here with the occaisional interlude for a couple years. I would move but I have to travel between Austin and San Antonio so SM makes the most sense.

    I’ve always sensed a certain resentment from the permanent residents toward the students, mostly from the more well-off residents. I find that unfortunate and unnecessary.

    If you ask me the blame lies with certain SWT presidents in the 70s and 80s that allowed it to become a “party school.” Under Supple and Trauth it has done better. Personally I think the university contributes a lot to the town, but there is a hostility between TxState and San Marcos that doesn’t exist in most college towns I’m familiar with. I fault both sides for that.

  8. “As a matter of fact, my (SM) son rented an Austin apt. AFTER paying out-of-district tuition, and he got tuition refunded after showing ACC his lease.”

    So he’s paying Austin rent and therfore Austin property tax through that rent. In that case he has every right to take advantage of ACC in-district rates. I don’t see the problem here.

  9. I nominate Aaron to lead San Marcos seniors in charity BBQ dinners to help fund future graduate’s college aspirations.

  10. Aaron- I harbor no resentment towards the college students and never said I did.

    Yes, the University contributes to our community, but it is not all fun and games for the locals.. They (the institution, not the individual students)have taken prime downtown property off the tax roll. They are allowed to cap their utility rates (most recently in news; water treatment rates, I believe). They provide a tsunami of cheap labor, competing w/locals and keeping wages down. (TSU was allowed to bid on trainer jobs at SM Activity Center. They won of course- cheap labor. Yes. locals lost jobs. I don’t think the savings were passed on to those taking the classes either and not sure what TSU pay the students doing the actual work….)Just some examples.

    As for my son living in Austin and paying rent there, well, actually he was at TownLake Student Apartments. So, no, I believe the complex (owned by non-profit organization/University aligned)is tax exempt.
    I brought my son as an example to your “I never bought the “subsidize TxState students” argument because if those students ARE from Dallas, etc.. then they are out-of-district residents and will utilize their own community colleges.” to show how easy it is to get in-district rates. I believe there are numbers to show that very few SM graduates use ACC; the majority are TSU students.

    BTW- Too bad you missed the 70s. They rocked.

  11. A mere .9% of the 2010 DOD budget would provide 2 years of junior college to every kid between the ages of 18-20 in the United States and its territories.

    Our priorities look way out of kilter.

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