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April 16th, 2010
Tea Party protesters rally despite afternoon rain


About three dozen people turned out for a Tea Party rally in downtown San Marcos Thursday afternoon. Photo by Andy Sevilla.

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Dozens of Tea Partiers rallied on the Hays County Courthouse lawn Thursday, calling for limited government spending on the day when personal income tax returns were due to the Internal Revenue Service (IRS).

Among those advocating lower taxes and an end to “out of control spending” was Jason Isaac (R-Dripping Springs), who is running against incumbent Patrick Rose (D-San Marcos) for the District 45 state representative seat in November. District 45 represents Hays, Caldwell and Blanco Counties.

Isaac’s message was particularly well-received by other ralliers, who numbered about three dozen on the courthouse corner of Hopkins Street and LBJ Drive during the afternoon drive time. Anticipating an intensification of the afternoon’s rain, rally organizers considered postponing the rally, but they decided to go ahead with a good turnout. Many drivers honked their horns as they drove past the protesters.

Tea Party rally organizer Rob Roark said the Tea Party has been negatively portrayed in the national media, which, he said, has called the Tea Party “an angry mob and even racist.” Roark said everyone attending the rally in Hays County was calm and diverse, adding that the ralliers were “people who love their country.”

Roark said the rally was an all-call for citizens to become pro-active in government and have their voices heard. He said citizens should be aware of what’s happening at all stages of government, specifically, he said, with the “printing of money that we don’t have, and putting the debt on our children.”

Naomi Narvaiz, president of the SMART group (San Marcos Republican Texans), said she was at the Tea Party rally in effort to advance “conservative values.”

Narvaiz said spending is out-of-control and the nation is headed towards socialism.

“We don’t need government to grow,” Narvaiz said. “They’re going to invade our lives.”

Narvaiz said the national leadership is “unethical” and is not comprised with “people of integrity.”

Tea Party rallies were held in every state across the nation for the second straight year. Thursday’s turnout in San Marcos was about one-third as large as the turnout last year, when April 15 fell on a mild, sunny day.

Isaac said citizens will have an opportunity to fight increased government spending through their votes in November. He said that though it will be an “uphill battle,” he is prepared to take on Rose with his conservative message of lower taxes, transparency in education funding, water protection and states’ rights.

Rose has served District 45 since defeating then-incumbent Rick Green (R-Dripping Springs) in 2002. Green narrowly lost Tuesday to Debra Lehrmann in a runoff election for the Republican nomination for the Texas Supreme Court, Place 3.

Isaac said he wants tax relief on businesses and lower property taxes, saying tax relief would stimulate the economy and create job growth. Isaac said he’s ready to start working on the state budget on Day One, if elected. Experts are projecting a Texas budget deficit of at least $11 billion, prompting Isaac to criticize Rose for expanding social programs.

“(Rose) is creating people to be dependent on the state for everything,” Isaac said.

Rose championed the expansion of the widely popular Texas’ Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP), which, Isaac said, only increases the state’s debt. Isaac said businesses should instead be provided with tools to afford insuring their employees, saying citizens would thereby be afforded more flexibility in deciding who their insurers should be.

Rose’s popularity in Hays County is due, in part, to his maneuvering of resources and millions of dollars from the state legislature for Texas State University. Isaac said he understands the struggles of the common college student, as he had to work and put himself through school. Isaac graduated in 1996 from Stephen F. Austin.

Rose received his undergraduate degree from Princeton and his law degree from the University of Texas.

Working against Isaac is Rose’s eight-year experience in the legislature and his tremendous fundraising ability. Though Isaac, by his own account, is not nearly at the level of Rose’s financial war chest, he said, “I think we’re going to surprise him.”

Isaac said he’s received ample contributions and expects only to increase incoming monies, although he cautioned that his financial gifts are not tied to special interests. Taking a jab at Rose, Isaac said he doesn’t “owe anything to special interests” and only has to answer to his wife and two children.

Isaac ran unopposed in the Republican primary on March 2. Rose defeated Andrew Backus of Driftwood with 79.7 percent of the vote in the Democratic primary.

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23 thoughts on “Tea Party protesters rally despite afternoon rain

  1. All incumbents should be wary of the upcoming mid-term. America wake and smell the Kool-Aid. Take back your country and your freedoms.
    Educate and inform the whole mass of the people… They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.
    Thomas Jefferson

  2. I ask that all of you please remain “awake” when the next neo-conservative becomes president and starts multiple wars. The budget required to “fund the war efforts(s)” greatly outweighs all of these other programs that many, not all, of the tea party highjackers shout and holler about. Yes, highjackers, b/c these tea party events started back in the Bush II years, when many people were still “asleep” and taking orders from their masters on the idiot box. Wait, who’s the biggest promoter of these rallies now…..oh wait…is anyone awake? As the dancer said to John Prine, “…blow up your t.v….”

  3. The main duty of the Government is to protect the people……Period! not to feed the people, not to clothe the people, and definitely not to medically cover the people. Where is there any document written by our founding fathers that states the latter?
    Wars have been waged since the beginning of time. They will never cease, be it conservative or liberal.

  4. Tea Party members are worse than Socialists – they are ANARCHISTS. They will tear down the nation to satisfy their narrow understanding and major emotional needs.

  5. Oh, but Jeffrey come lately, your denial is beneath you. Let us look at the recent “threats” that our governement is “protecting” us from. Osama Bid Laden: trained and funded by the CIA; Sadam Hussein: Funded and supported by the U.S. State Department; Zetas (one of the largest trafficking cartels on the U.S./Mexico border): Trained at the School of the Americas in Columus, Georgia.

    What other wars are we fighting at the moment? War on Terror, war on drugs, war on weapons of mass destruction, i mean operation Iraqi freedom, operation expand empire, or whatever they call it these days. Any others?

    As for the government’s only role being to “protect” us, I’m not sure where you get that from. The constitution states in it’s Preamble:

    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    Article 1, section 8 goes into the role of Congress relating to defense and general welfare in a little bit more detail.

    It’s always the last guy at the party who ruins it for the rest of us.

    Now I’ll use your own hijacked catch phrase….WAKE UP!

  6. Sin Nombre, you have seemed to have missed something. Many of the Tea Partyers are also Ron Paul supporters, and Ron Paul is against the war in Iraq

  7. No, that was actually my point, if you read my first comment, is that the tea party was started by Ron Paul supporters and now it’s become this circus of “take your hands off my medicare” crowd.

  8. There are plenty of Ron Paul supporters still active in the San Marcos tea parties and other events. I worry only about what I can do, and that has been ensuring that, at the local level, our events stay focused on a message of fiscal responsibility and common-sense governing principles.

  9. How is anarchism worse than socialism, Senor? Do anarchists seek to take freedoms away? Please explain.

    If not for the laws and the loopholes I think we’d have a lot more civility in the world. then the question would not be whether the state deems it okay, it would be whether or not your neighbor does.

  10. So Joe Ptak is now a Tea Party member. Wow I blown away to see Joe and the Tea Party in bed together. This must be the new face of America. Has the Tea Party taken a position on the piece of art decorating Joes’ place of employment ( a head shop as I recall) and now the center of a very expensive law suit? Is the car art or just a junk car. ( Art supporting Obama in my view) . I just love the fact that the new face of the Tea Party is Joe Ptak. Mr Isaaks you must be really pleased.

  11. While I’m thinking about it was this the same Mr Isaacs that was eating breakfast in Wimbelry a few weeks ago with three gentleman who all retired from an big oil companies who were seated in the corner of the Cafe ( next to my table) who speaking in loud voices and were telling Mr Isaacs how they needed his help to defeat Mr Roses drilling policy as it was “bad for business. As it happens I was at the next table and try as I might I could not help but hear( I left as soon as I got my breakfast) but reading what Mr Isaacs tells the Tea Party and what he seemed to be speaking about then ( how he would be good for buisiness and big oil) seems to me that he is playing the tea party card and is really a lacky for big oil and big business.

  12. April 14th, NYTimes “The 18 percent of Americans who identify themselves as Tea Party supporters tend to be Republican, white, male, married and older than 45.” There are 2 interesting things about this statement; 1) 18% – this is the vote that Issac is likely to get 2) white, male, married and older than 45- people in this category are becoming more and more in the minority not only in the state of Texas but in the country.

    Could this backlash from tea partiers be an outcry from those who are not just afraid of economic change but also are afraid of becoming the ethnic minority as well as loosing thier masculine power as our country actually becomes more free and equal?

  13. Isaaks seems to be running against everything and for little but platitudes. While I am not Patricks biggest fan( I had lots of Republican signs in front of my office) In my humble opinion I really cant stand the double standard that I accidentally saw revealed at the Wimblely Cafe that morning. I sure did not intend to listen, they came and sat behind me and they talked loudly. It was a real eye opener for me.

    And yes Observer, from what I see most of the tea Party folks are good folks, scared folks, they don’t understand the shifts that have occurred. However, even George Wallace understood that he was on the wrong end of history and wound up making his peace. Most of the anger in the tea party will resolve as, like Social Security and Medicare before , those that really benefit begin to understand that really a good deal and the messages of gloom and doom were nothing but political theater.

    If you read History this was heard before. Look at Senator Taft from Ohio, he opposed Social Security, Medicare, World War 2 and the Interstate Highway system with most of the same arguments we are hearing today.

  14. Observor, I think you paint the tea party with an overly narrow brush in an effort to dismiss their passion. Only 59% are male, so to say it is predominately male is the same as saying college students are predominately female (57%). While they tend to be conservative, they are not the traditional Republican with over 57% of tea partiers favoring civil unions. It is a movement of fiscal conservatives and liberals in the traditional sense that more government comes at the cost of liberty.

    I doubt they fear the country becoming more free; I just think they see spending as a threat to everyone’s freedom, as new numbers suggest only a 91% tax rate can pay for our indebtedness moving forward — 91% doesn’t sound very free.

  15. David,

    Are you seriously suggesting that social security and Medicare are (or should be held up as) model programs? These two programs account for more federal spending than any other and are so thoroughly inefficient and riddled with waste that there is no way any fiscally responsible person could label them as “a good thing”.

    To the contrary, if the new health care package is run anything like social security or Medicare, we are all in deep trouble… matter how many people it is able to convince otherwise by putting them on the government teat.

  16. “Eighteen percent of Americans identify as Tea Party supporters. The vast majority of them — 89 percent — are white. Just one percent is black.
    They tend to skew older: Three in four are 45 years old or older, including 29 percent who are 65 plus. They are also more likely to be men (59 percent) than women (41 percent).
    More than one in three (36 percent) hails from the South, far more than any other region. Twenty-five percent come from the West, 22 percent from the Midwest, and 18 percent from the northeast.
    More than half — 58 percent — keep a gun in the household.
    Asked to volunteer what they don’t like about Mr. Obama, the top answer, offered by 19 percent of Tea Party supporters, was that they just don’t like him.
    Sixty-four percent believe that the president has increased taxes for most Americans, despite the fact that the vast majority of Americans got a tax cut under the Obama administration.
    Twenty-four percent of Tea Party supporters say it is sometimes justified to take violent action against the government.
    Sixty-three percent say they get the majority of their political and current events news on television from the Fox News Channel,
    Thirty percent of Tea Party supporters believe Mr. Obama was born in another country, despite ample evidence to the contrary. Another 29 percent say they don’t know.
    Tea Party supporters were asked in the poll what they thought of a few notable figures. The most popular was Sarah Palin, who is viewed favorably by 66 percent of people in the movement.
    Fifty-nine percent of Tea Party supporters have a favorable impression of Glenn Beck.
    “- CBS, April 14th

    This is the honorable Tea Party… shoot me now

  17. 29% of statistics are made up on the spot. 37% are exaggerated to make a point, and 45% are quoted without context. Yeah, I made all of that up.

    Since you like poll numbers, you might be interested to know that support for the Tea Party movement is growing. A Pew Center poll shows that 24% of Americans now “agree with” the Tea Party movement….up 8% from a month ago. If our government in Washington insists on shoving huge spending program after huge spending program down our throats (over every kind of public opposition), then they don’t deserve to keep their jobs and there will continue to be an effort to make sure they lose them.

    And as a last note….why does it bother you that many members of the tea party are white, male, Southern, gun owners, and older? Don’t people in this demographic have a right to political opinion too? Why do you want to be “shot” because these people tend to support Palin and Beck? That seems a bit extreme. For that matter, why would it bother you that they watch Fox News? It’s no worse than CNN or NBC. Your post reeks of condescension.

  18. To “sin nombre”, “observer”, et al…

    Polls, my friends, are similar to opinions…which ultimately resemble, well, you know…everyone has one, and they all stink… I find the NY times/CNN poll difficult to digest coming on the heels of the Rasmussen, and USA today polls…(feel free to look those up.) But it would seem to me that a clearly “left” biased institution would do anything to denegrate a possible threat to its, shall we say, ideology.

    As per Rasmussen: “On major issues, 48% of voters say that the average Tea Party member is closer to their views than President Barack Obama. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 44% hold the opposite view and believe the president’s views are closer to their own.”

    “Eighty-seven percent (87%) of those in the Political Class say their views are closer to the president. The Obama Administration has created a significantly larger government and political role in the economy. Sixty-three percent (63%) of Mainstream Americans say their views are closer to the Tea Party.”

    “Last week, Rasmussen Reports released data showing that 47% of voters felt closer to the views of Tea Party members than to Congress. Only 26% felt closer to Congress. The new polling found that just 33% believe their views are closer to the average member of a Labor Union than to Congress. In fact, a plurality of voters were undecided when asked about that comparison. While 48% of Democrats said their own views were closer to the average union member, most Republicans and unaffiliated voters could not choose between the two. In a head-to-head comparison, 45% felt closer to the average Tea Party Member while 35% felt closer to the average union member.”

    “Unaffiliated voters are continuing the pattern they established in 2006 and 2008 of opposing the party in power,” notes Scott Rasmussen, president of Rasmussen Reports. In his new book, Scott makes the case that “the American people don’t want to be governed from the left, the right, or the center. They want to govern themselves.”

    You may further resource the Gallup article stating: “Tea Partiers Are Fairly Mainstream in Their Demographics” from which I will quote only a few of their findings.

    From Gallup: “PRINCETON, NJ — Tea Party supporters skew right politically; but demographically, they are generally representative of the public at large. That’s the finding of a USA Today/Gallup poll conducted March 26-28, in which 28% of U.S. adults call themselves supporters of the Tea Party movement.”

    Further, from The Winston Group: “‘Our research shows that Tea Party activists’ top concern – economy and jobs — mirrors the majority of voters in the country.’ -David Winston, president of The Winston Group

    “WASHINGTON DC (April 1, 2010) — Tea Party activists may be ardent supporters of economic conservatism but are similar to the overall electorate when it comes to economic priorities, according to the findings of a new report released by The Winston Group today on the political movement. “

    “In one of the most extensive looks to date at just who Tea Party activists are, how they think, and the ideas that matter to them, the report found that 17% of the people polled considered themselves “part of the Tea Party movement” and more than four in ten Tea Party members said they were either Independents or Democrats.”

    “In three national surveys, done for New Models from December 2009 through February 2010, 57% of Tea Party members called themselves Republicans, another 28% said they were Independents, and 13% were Democrats. Two-thirds of Tea Party members identify as conservatives but 26% say they are moderate and 8% described themselves as liberal.”

    “The study also found Tea Party members are more likely to be male by a 56-44% margin, slightly older than the electorate as a whole and middle income earners. When it comes to issues, the research found that Tea Party activists espouse a strong economic conservatism.”

    Another interesting read re: what these folks are promoting can be found in Lawrence Kudlow’s article, “America’s Constitutionalist Revolt.”

    Now, these are merely more polls and more data to manipulate which further proves my point that everyone has one…etc. Myself, I’m torn on the issue. I find my political values as Conservative libertarian and hardcore States’ Rights activism…who better to govern a society than it’s citizens with relative local experience. All these issues should be decided on the state level and the federal government’s role should be significantly limited to border protection (please don’t read “war-mongering” into it, as this is not what I mean…literal border protection is what is advised in all original documents of this “republic”) and inter-state commerce protection (read “roads”). If this qualifies as “Tea Party”, so be it.

    I think the majority of us would be greatly disappointed in a “Nanny” or “Entitlement” State which to me appears to simply be another, much more insidious, form of slavery.

  19. You people can talk all you want about the constitution, but we all know that the wealthy and powerful have a completely different set of rules from the rest of us in this country. They are treated differently in court and they go to different prisons(and they seldom actually go to prison) Of the billions stolen on Wall Street, how many went to prison? Now try stealing twenty dollars from the cash register at a Seven Eleven and see what happens every time. It seems to me that fiscal conservatives in this country have no problem with corporate welfare and the privilege of the wealthy. For many decades the wealthy have been provided a safety net at taxpayer expense. No one takes to the streets in protest when Wall Street gets billions in taxpayer monies after overtly defrauding the American people, yet when the poor are given food stamps or health care they are accused of being lazy and good for nothing -even a drain on society. This attitude is evidence that tea party is an organization of amoral hypocrites and the funny part is they are still working hard in support of the very thieves that just stole the value of the American dollars they pay their taxes with. They have, indeed, been duped again.

  20. One just has to have been astonished last week, “I don’t give a flying crap about political affairs. After all, Fox IS an entertainment network.” This from our new Messiah, who informed us today that the big “PLAN” he has been cashing in on from every angle, but not enunciating, was being delivered to him directly by God, in little progressive snippets. He feels warmth around him, then The Voice moves him to further promote his lunatic “ideas,” false analogies, kook symbology, rants about socialism and fascism being the same, etc. I wonder if HE knows the Congressional Committee investigation of the dreaded “ACORN,” for example, acquired the UNedited tapes and pointed out how two sets of film had been edited together, not even that well or credibly, to enable his crippling crusade against the organization. The only charges actually being filed will belong to the perpetrator, not the victims of the phony slander. How reliable is it to poll the kinds of folks who obviously and gullibly believe Glen’s horse manure and moonbeams, or Rush’s inflammatory and dangerous malarkey, or any of their patently and provably false incitations to fear, anger, panic, illogic, and likely in the end, bloody little kid games. The tragedy lies there.

    Too bad you can’t better screen poll responders for sanity and fact, or pollsters for “Have you stopped beating your wife yet?” cleverly misleading language. Some polls ring true, and some are so skewed as to be both worthless and
    self-perpetuating expansions opf the latest “news” cobbled up in classic yellow journalism. Nobody can deny they are having an effect–often a malignant strategic effect paid for and designed into them. Sunshine truly is, in the end, the best disinfectant available, but it has been in short supply.

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  22. After reading through the strong comments, just a couple of clarifications to hopefully set the record straight:

    Mr. Sergi,
    First, I do not know that I have ever seen Mr. Ptak at this event on the 15th. I am curious how you feel he is connected.
    Secondly, I was quiet impressed that Mr. Isaac spent over two hours in the rain speaking with us, not at us. Mr. Rose is welcome to come and spend the same amount of time, in the same weather conditions, any day.
    Lastly, I am surprised that someone used to dealing with hard defensible facts would be overhearing talk from another table. In Wimberley, oil? I would imagine the conversation probably revolved around drilling for WATER, and the pursuit of uncapped wells by the EAA.

    X – I WAS among many who were upset at the bailout in 2008, and demonstrated against corporate welfare at the expense of our children’s financial future. In fact that was one of the key issues that started a lot of the activism that you see today. In fact, even our own councilman Jones is upset that the Tea Party is getting involved in the local “budget process” in questioning tax incentives for apartment complex’s and downtown malls. Doesn’t sound like “corpratism” to me…

    There were many different people at many different times on the square on the 15th. These are people who are questioning our elected representatives, at the Federal, State and local levels. Those in power do not like to be questioned. They also do not like to be told that we are out of money, and borrowing against our children’s financial future is unsustainable. “Spin” is easy and cheap to throw out there. So, instead of believing the “spin”, come on down to a city council, or commissioners court meeting, and see for yourself how to get involved. Better yet, turn off the TV all together, get out in your neighborhood, and find out that most of your neighbors want less government, not spending money we do not have, and for us to be self sufficient.

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